Religous debates 101: Atheists are dishonest, even to themselves

When I was in college Philosophy classes there were two inevitabilities. The first was that we would be needlessly and subjectively tortured with that professors favorite Philosopher, even if his work was off topic to the discussion. The second was that within the 2nd week of class I would have to endure the attempted and repeated philosophical gang rape of every atheist in the class trying to "de-convert me" from Christianity. It was a consistent thing in each class that a group of well meaning, yet arrogant set of students would consider it a educational imperative to poke, prod, scrutinize, ridicule and cajole me over a belief in God. Think about the physical bullying that kids endure in school and consider this a kind of intellectual bullying. There was only two differences. The first being that a physical bully can hurt or damage you. In these classes I can safely say that I was in my hockey playing prime and could whip anyone in that class. That alone kept the snide remarks to a minimum. The second was that, in school, a bully's natural enemy is the teacher. Not so in college. Not hardly. In fact most prof's would set up the verbal bloodsport in their lectures just to watch the carnage. I learned that atheists are normally pack animals because they rely on the pack to fend off counters. It makes perfect sense. Faith in religion is a personal choice so defending a lack of belief in God requires a defense of a personal choice. So if you want to engage me in what I believe, my natural questions are going to deal with what you believe and, any way you cut it, it's a lot easier to defend believing in something than to defend believing in nothing. This is the reason that the individual atheists will just try to be rude and offensive in a discussion while a group will calmly engage in discussions because discussing a group disbelief is shallow due to it's variance in formation. By that I mean, it's easy for a group to dissect one frog to see why it ticks but it's harder for one man to dissect 20 frogs at the same time. This points me to the whole reason that I bring this up, Atheism has an extremely strong dishonest streak in it. By that I mean that atheists don't normally honestly believe that there is no God. Atheists have a emotionally vested interest in saying that "there is no God." There may very well be a person who is the exception to that rule but I have yet to meet them. However, I have known countless atheists that would walk across burning sand to tell a Christian that there is no God. Likewise, have you noticed that atheists hate the Christian God. How many atheists do you ever see attacking the Bahi or Islam or the Native Americans or the scientologist? I can't remember one time. I'm sure that there has to be, but let's be honest, Atheism in the US is a anti-christian movement. You think I'm blowing smoke? Check this link out. This the website for The Rational Response Squad. According to their banner they are for "Fighting the Free Humanity from the Mind Disorder that is theism." Interesting. So how divergent is their attack on the many fronts of human theism? Well ... they manage to take on Christianity and the Bible. Every other Deity? Not so much. In their fun loving mirth and merriment they have a fun contest. All you have to do is make a video of yourself "denying the Holy Spirit" and they will send you a copy of their DVD "The God who wasn't there" for Free. Why "deny the Holy Spirit?" Because silly, the Bible says in Mark 3:29 "But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin." So by all means, let's make a contest out of it. Of course, you'll notice that they don't denounce their faith in Ra, Allah, The Great Spirit or Quetzalcoatl. Is that because they are any less a Deities? Nope. It's because they aren't deities that the atheists has had to deal with due to the people that believe in them living around them. As an enlightened group of great thinkers who can spot the evil of religions a mile away they can't escape their own humanity in that they only choose to spit in the eye of that which really offends them despite their justifications to the contrary. Atheist may make wonderful arguments about the role of religion causing every ill the world has seen in it's history because they consider it one of the great proofs of how religion and God are a waste of time. This point is invariably never contrasted by the same person to all the poor, orphans or downtrodden that religion has cared for. Nor do they point out the advances in science, math, language, government or philosophy driven by religion. They treat it like a salad bar and take what they like and ignore the rest. I have never met a honest atheist and I doubt that I ever will for one simple reason: You can never say that "God doesn't exist" honestly because you fail to have the means to conclusively prove it. Ontology doesn't provide the means to measure metaphysics. For that reason, any honest doubter is forced to say that there is a 99.999 X 10 to the infinite power that God does not exist but they can not close that door entirely. Just as we learned that the mineral was not the smallest level of matter, nor the atom, nor the proton due to the increases in scientific knowledge, we are unable to describe metaphysics with any accuracy because the means to quantify it do not exist to a level of certainty to justify the statement that "there is no God." In this, I submit to any person that is waged in a debate with a group of atheist, and it is normally a group because they will bring friends, make whatever arguments you wish with the understanding that they don't desire any real understanding of your beliefs. They care to understand your belief system the same way I care about a bore hole when we drill for oil, that is to say that information I can gain is used to reduce risk and aid exploitation of the resources I want. However, in the extremely rare cases when you have a debate with a atheist on your own, realize two truths: No one has ever come to God by debate, only by faith. Secondly, the best truth God has ever given you is what he has done for you personally and by sharing that there is no argument persuasive enough to prove you wrong or to prove them right. I look at those video's and I don't see brave visionaries of humanistic thought, I didn't see them in the classrooms in college either. All I saw was people that needed God and rebelled from it due to fear, anger and pride. I am no different in that except that I finally put my faith in something bigger than myself and was justified for it and I will never need to fear any argument that runs contrary to that. I pray for those people because God does love them all despite what they do. Hopefully, some day they confront the inherent dishonesty of their position and actually look to why they embrace it with such an obvious distaste for only one religion and only one God. Crossposted at Say Anything, where a pointed debate in the comments is distinctly possible...